April 23, 2008

Animal Cruelty At Vassar?

There are "cruel" attempts being made against the groundhogs on campus, one Mads reader tells us. Traps have been set up by Noyes Circle. It is most likely that B&G set up these traps, but this is not confirmed.

This is probably a landscaping issue, but isn't there another way to go about things?

One groundhog was spotted with a broken leg. Luckily it was saved by a sophomore from Joss. A Jewett sophomore spotted a groundhog still in the trap.

This brings to mind PETA's case against Vassar.

UPDATE: Wow. This is turning into a big issue in not very much time. Remember, it is unconfirmed as of now that B&G are behind the traps. We are waiting on statements and confirmations. Check back tomorrow!

UPDATE #2: We will put contact info up when we know who is behind this.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is nothing cruel about it. They catch them and then re-locate them somewhere else. Its just so they don't dig under sheds and stuff. Why is everything such a big deal to you people?

Anonymous said...

First of all its actually illegal to relocate those animals. Second of all these aren't have-a-heart traps, these traps break their legs and seriously injure them.

So this is an issue we should address.

Anonymous said...

i find the fat bastard from b&g who does this i will put him in a trap himself. useless morons, chasing groundhogs when half of the college dorms smell like piss. and thats what i pay for - to chase groundhogs...

Anonymous said...

9:49, I saw the groundhog with the broken leg this afternoon, and if you had too you wouldn't be saying "there's nothing cruel about it." The poor animal was slowly using its front legs to move while dragging it's back legs completely flat, mangled, and useless behind it.

Anonymous said...

This is awful. I love those groundhogs. I am absolutely horrified.

Anonymous said...

I emailed PETA. Fuck Vassar.

ragazza verde said...

When I walked by I composed hate mail to B&G in my head.
There was a poor little ground hog in one of the traps. I wanted to rescue him and take him back to my room and love him. I hope he's been taken out since.

Anonymous said...

Wow. I hadn't heard about this, but I find it deeply disturbing. I hope PETA acts quickly.

Anonymous said...

this is horrible. the groundhogs may mess up some flowers, but i know they bring so much happiness to a lot of people. every time i see one it brightens up my day

Anonymous said...

so upsetting

Anonymous said...

i love the groundhogs, my friends and i have given them all names. I don't want anything to happen to them. They are so adorable.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you outraged people (I'm outraged too, dont attack me for grouping you) just move/take/dismantle the traps?

I mean, yeah. we can all complain, but why not just do something? Eventualy they'll get tired of missing and broken traps and leave the animals alone.

In theory

Anonymous said...

yum dinner!!

Anonymous said...

i am totally sabotaging their traps. fuck b&g. i hope they read this, but i am sure not many of them are literate

Anonymous said...

anyone that would do this to a helpless animal is a horrible person and I would LOVE to bitch them out.

Anonymous said...

Everyone I know loves the groundhogs. When my friend saw one with useless, mangled back legs we assumed that a dog had done it. But if B&G is inhumanely trapping and injuring these cute little creatures...this is horrifying.

I'd rather have a few chomped on flowers than a bunch of hurt groundhogs!

Anonymous said...

Guys, I know it's horrible that the animals are getting hurt and all, but don't be so mean to the workers of B&G. The guys who mow our lawns and fix the plumbing and the trucks and everything are good guys who are just trying to make a living. It's the higher up managers and the like that give them orders to do things like this, and those managers can be influenced by the administration if the administration hears from prospective students and families that they don't like the animals. And don't say the guys laying the traps should just disobey their bosses. If they do that, they lose their jobs and can't support their families. So please, don't take it out on the B&G guys; instead, make a big fuss about it with the administration and the like.

hurkon said...

I saw a groundhog with really messed up legs on Monday, and I would bet that it was because of those traps. It had to drag itself around on its belly by its front legs. It was so sad, since it obviously wasn't going to live much longer.
I know the nicely-maintained campus is a lot of what makes Vassar appealing, but sometimes I think Vassar is a little too in love with the landscaping. Seriously, Vassar, they're called Have-a-Heart traps.

zack said...

10:54-
That's pretty fucked up.

zack said...

I meant the comment about b&g. I'm all for sabotaging the traps.

Anonymous said...

if the prospective students want a campus with absolutely perfectly manicured lawns and flowerbeds instead of these groundhogs, which are some of the most adorable creatures that I have ever met, then I sure as hell do not want to go to school with them

the treshirecat said...

so who do i direct my hate e-mails to?

Anonymous said...

11:11 - I don't think most of us (except for 10:54 I guess) are hating on the B&G workers. We all benefit from their hard work and don't appreciate it nearly enough. When I criticize B&G, I'm criticizing the policies of B&G made by the higher-up admins.

And yeah, where do we direct our (polite but strongly worded) emails? Anyone know?

-11:07

Anonymous said...

If you go to the buildings and grounds page, at the bottom there's a "Contact Buildings and Grounds" link. Perhaps we should all direct our messages there?

Anonymous said...

Sent. Inform your friends suggest that they send in an e-mail too, please.

treshirecat said...

12:16—
the "contact" link gets you a bounced email. awesome.

Anonymous said...

people > animals

Andrew Bennett said...

Hi all,

I'm looking into this for you guys. Please let me figure out what's up before jumping to conclusions. I'll post as soon as I hear something. Also, please email me if this upsets you (andbennett@vassar...).

Andrew
Campus Master Planning Cmte member

Anonymous said...

first of all, who cares.
second of all, who cares.

they're animals; we're humans. end of story.

Anonymous said...

Bullshit. Then these alleged traps are different than the ones I've seen them use before, because I've seen them catch the groundhogs at the nursery school and it just chilled in a cage for an hour or so and then animal control came and took it away. It didn't have broken legs, it wasn't hobbling along, it was sitting in a fucking cage. Maybe before you people email PETA you should find out all the facts about the situation.

Either way, what kind of traps break animal's legs and then let them go? Give me a break with the sob stories.

- 9:49

Anonymous said...

Why get rid of the groundhogs? Seeing them scurrying along is one of the highlights of my days.

Anonymous said...

Snorefest

Did you hear about the freshman who released his domesticated rabbit because he just couldn't keep it confined anymore? It was found with a broken leg. What an idiot. Probably one of the people crying on behalf of the gophers right now.

boringboringboring

Anonymous said...

andrew bennett is involved in this, too??

Anonymous said...

I love the groundhogs -- the use of these traps makes me a little sick.

Mina said...

1:13 is right. there isn't an animal trap on earth that breaks and animal's legs and then sets it free. those animals may have gotten into a fight or gotten hit by a car, but i HIGHLY doubt it got trapped, had its legs broken, and magically escaped.

most places won't even sell inhumane traps anymore. my mom and i had to get rid of possums at our house, and the ONLY option was those have-a-heart traps, which was gross because we had nasty possums in them hissing at us. the point is, i don't think vassar would go out of their way to find traps that hurt the groundhogs. has anyone actually SEEN an injured groundhog in those traps?

mads, i think you need to be more responsible with the news you report. get the facts before you go posting things all willy-nilly because the amount of freak out about this is mostly because people are getting their (vague and possibly incorrect) information from you. be more responsible.

Anonymous said...

I LOVE GROUNDHOGS!

Andrew Bennett said...

B&G is using Hav-a-hart traps specially designed for groundhogs and racoons. These traps are recommended as humane traps on the PETA website (http://www.peta.org/living/at-spring2003/home1.html).

If you see an injured animal, please call B&G at (845) 437-5555 or, after the office is closed, the CRC.

And as always if you're still concerned about the use of traps on campus, please shoot me an email (andbennett).

Hope that helps,
Andrew

Anonymous said...

but why are they trapping them? even if they are using "nice" traps (which is an oxymoron to begin with), who says they groundhogs need to go away? they are the best part of this campus.

Anonymous said...

BUT! Even if they are hav-a-heart or whatever....I saw one caught in the trap and one of its legs was stuck and he was flailing all over the place! it was so sad. AND one of his little friends was outside the trap watching. oh it was awful!