April 21, 2008

Tomorrow's The Big Day

The Pennsylvania primaries are being held tomorrow.

It all could come down to this!

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON

although i suspect she'll lose, sadly

Anonymous said...

technically, if you look at the numbers, clinton lost a while ago. and yet she continues to forge ahead... what a fucking tool.

Anonymous said...

It's not all coming down to PA. We already know Clinton will win that state because of poor whites, which means she'll make the case to forge ahead.

The race isn't ending anytime soon, unless Barack takes Indiana.

Anonymous said...

GO CLINTON! According to Realclearpolitics, she has a small lead in Indiana. Sooo...who knows! I hope she wins!

chuck said...

No, 8:20, I would not say that looking at the numbers "Clinton lost awhile ago".

What about Michigan and Florida?

People voted. Their votes did not count. That was not the choice of the candidates to push the primary forward, why should either of them suffer because of it?

The point is, these peoples votes are never going to be counted on this. That is a major problem, and it makes me uneasy about the rest of this primary season.

Anonymous said...

chuck--to catch obama, clinton has to win about 60% of the vote in every remaining primary...and then get 2/3 of the superdelegate vote. she is statistically dead.

Anonymous said...

thanks for the map I really wanted to know what pennsylvania looked like in blue

Anonymous said...

mccain is so the next pres. i am tired of these two bickering and barking at each other

Anonymous said...

Mccain should be the president, i agree. anyone in a tax bracket higher than middle class would be insane to vote for a Democrat. They'll tax you until you die.

Anonymous said...

Mads supports Hillary? He must be the only freshman to do so.

(Clinton supporter here.)

Anonymous said...

10:03: it is due to that irresponsible, selfish, and unfortunately commonly held mindset that mccain probably WILL be the next president... do you really want keep the bush tax cuts while fighting a war that we can't fund (let alone, a war that is strengthening terrorist orgs and terrorist sentiment and weakening the u.s. position both militarily and politically throughout the world)?????? and who cares about domestic social structures, health care, failing school systems, etc. ever heard of the cycle of poverty?great, anything goes as long as the rich don't have to pay their fair share in taxes.

--clinton supporter here too.

Anonymous said...

mccain 08!

Anonymous said...

10:24, we are not here to discuss the wellbeing of america but the future of our class. mccain 08!

Anonymous said...

Instead of spending all this money on campaigning, why don't both of them chuck the campaign shit and put it towards - oh, I don't know... trying to fix the national debt?

Anonymous said...

wow.. if anyone ever posted this "mccain 08: let's look after our own social class" elitist racist bullshit with their name, i'd call them out in this in public. you people make me sick. i'd like to throw a brick into the window of each of your beamers and graffiti your fucking mcmansions

Anonymous said...

WOW. 10:55 gets the award for the most politically incompetent comment i have read. EVER.

Anonymous said...

I AGREE with 11:06, what the fuck? it's in nobody's interest to vote for mccain because your taxes would go toward funding the war in iraq and dropping bombs in iran. ILLEGALLY!!!!!

OH!!! by the way china is funding the war in iraq. the united states owes china. have fun looking after yourselves.

YEAH let's pay for shit like this!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846_pf.html

if you vote for mccain because you think you'll be paying fewer taxes, then THINK AGAIN. i'd rather be taxed up the wazoo and get things like BETTER EDUCATIon, BETTER HEALTH CARE, than have ANY of my $ go toward mccain's military fantasies.

Anonymous said...

I think that a McCain presidency would be worst for the country, but I think that a Clinton/Obama presidency would be worst for me personally, particularly if Democrats continue to control Congress and they raise taxes like nobody's business to pay for healthcare and excess welfare for the low/middle classes.

I choose my own well-being over other people's any day of the week. Sorry if that's politically incorrect. Such is the nature of capitalism, which is the foundation of the United States. But I'm voting for McCain.

Anonymous said...

I'm home in Philly now, came all the way back just to vote! OBAMAAAAAAAAAA!

Anonymous said...

I think it's a little weird/unprofessional that the only non-Vassar related link Mads has up is a Hillary link. And not just to her website, which would be better, but to a financial contribution site. I lost a little respect for Mads because of that.

Anonymous said...

i bet if it was an obama contribution link you wouldn't have a problem.

perez hilton frequently puts up the same hillary link.

Anonymous said...

People say that upper middle class people dislike tax hikes because they don't benefit the things they care about/ they don't gain anything. Um ok. I come from an upper middle class family and I am totally ok with paying high taxes for better schools,better healthcare, social security, etc etc...those things benefit me. And I think it is for the best for everyone. I support most everything but the war. I dunno. Something about using my tax money to kill people doesn't thrill me...

Anonymous said...

12:05, i don't think it's extreme at all to say you're a fairly poor human being. you couldn't find a religion, philosophy or cult in the world to excuse selfism as terrible as yours.

Anonymous said...

newsflash: this is MADS site. not vassar's, if he wants to put up a hillary link, he can and should. and yes, i am a HRC supporter but couldn't care less if I wasn't. also, no one has given a good enough reason for supporting mccain besides "i love daddy's money and one day it will be allll mmmmiiiiineeee". fuck you ignorant bastards.

Anonymous said...

You're clueless if you think Obama or Clinton or McCain will fix health care.

Anonymous said...

mccain supporters have no hearts.

Anonymous said...

and clinton/obama supporters have no heads. unless they rely on the federal government for income, in which case they're choosing the right party

Anonymous said...

9:50, you have to start SOMEwhere

KAI said...

Wow, where were all of these Republicans and HRC supporters when Mads had the poll of who we were voting for in the Primaries? Were you all just afraid to admit that you were voting for those who approved the Iraq war? To the McCainers who want to keep taxes to the wealthy low, realize that you are ridiculous. The financial implications of a (essentially) third Bush term for the country would be devastating. If a "third world" country was practicing the same spectacularly undisciplined spending as the US they would have been taken over by the IMF long ago.
In my opinion Obama is the better choice in the Democratic party, but ANYONE would be an improvement from the Republican shit that we've been dealing with for the last 8 years.

Anonymous said...

and that you will be dealing with in the next 4

Anonymous said...

i won't. I'll be gettin the fuck outta here before mccain gets this country blown up.

Anonymous said...

Ron Paul '08!

Anonymous said...

Hell fucking yeah! RON PAUL REVOLUTION!
And/or Obama, why don't we leave this vicious cycle of politics as usual. McCain or Hilary, we'll just have presidents who have been too far influenced by the military-industrial complex and corporations to be able to provide leadership that reflects the interests of the American people. Seriously Vassar, get with the program.

Anonymous said...

i hate the whole "hillary and corporations" argument. there is no argument. both hillary and obama have accepted funds from corporations. there's nothing wrong with it.

the whole "bush-clinton era" argument is also absurd. bill clinton had some great moments during his terms. and just because we've seen her last name before, doesn't mean she won't bring something new to the white house and country.

clinton and obama have the SAME POLICIES. it's just a matter of EXPERIENCE.

Anonymous said...

I always hear people attacking the "legacy" politics of the past few presidents, pointing out that we need some fresh blood in the White House in order to produce any /real/ change. Now, I understand this approach when directed toward the Bush administrations and (arguably) the Republicans, but when did Bill Clinton's administration accrue such vicious hatred? And don't even point to the Lewinsky "scandal." I don't care for it and refuse to measure Bill Clinton's presidency less favorably because of it.

Anonymous said...

Please reply to the last two comments, I'd like some clarification as well.

Anonymous said...

Here's an idea from Shelby Steele: America voting Obama would be one of the greatest boosts to foreign relations possible, simply because we could collectively choose a man of color. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

I don't care what kind of /byproducts/ we'd be getting if Obama is elected, because that's all it would really be - a BYPRODUCT. Voting a candidate into office should involve reasoning about his or her /policies/ and /experience/.

Are you really prepared to vote for Obama merely because of his skin color? People like you get my blood boiling.

kai said...

I don't think that Shelby Steele is suggesting that we vote for Obama because he is black (or HRC because she's a woman, for that matter). We vote for him because we believe he is the best candidate. It just so happens that if he were elected, on November 5th when the world wakes up they see the pictures of the person who was democratically elected by the USA looks nothing like what they may have associated with the US (i.e. white rich guy). It would be a powerful message.