September 29, 2008

By Word Of Mouth

A certain famous Vassar dropout got quite candid in a recent interview with Esquire magazine, according to various reports. She supposedly admitted her passion for...well read it for yourself.

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

I guess that's what happens when you leave Vassar. Ha!

Anonymous said...

she's a disgrace to the female gender.

Anonymous said...

that's so hot

Anonymous said...

she's a disgrace of an actress but not a disgrace of a woman... more women should be so sexually empowered

Anonymous said...

Thank you 10:19, I wanted to say the same. All the power to her if she gets pleasure through anal sex. There is no reason for her to tiptoe around the subject just because somebody might judge her for being promiscuous. Do what you want to do, girl.

Anonymous said...

call me old fashioned... it's not proper for women to discuss anal sex. period.

Anonymous said...

not old fashioned, so much as douchebag

Anonymous said...

10.46, 10.48 is right.
you iz a douche.bag.z.

Anonymous said...

oh please. this is feminine empowerment and sexual liberation. you go girl!!!!

Anonymous said...

why would anal sex be associated with promiscuity any more than regular ol' sex? promiscuity lies in quantity, not quality(?).

Anonymous said...

i think i agree with 10:46. it's just not a topic that girls should talk about. i myself would never discuss something like anal sex, even if other girls are the only ones around me. i think we have to maintain some semblance of propriety compared to men... this article crosses the line.

Anonymous said...

I think 10:46 and 12:36 would be more comfortable at the Vassar of 1908 as opposed to the Vassar of 2008... or maybe they just don't recall that sarcasm doesn't translate well through blog comments.

Anonymous said...

i dont think there's anything wrong with having a conversation about girls having anal sex. it happens-who cares. The thing that i dont care to hear about is ann hathaway's sex practices. why should the whole world need to know what she does with her personal life....

Anonymous said...

all I'm gonna say is, this is enough sauce to last me the whole week.

Anonymous said...

I think it's hard for people to express, but anal sex is cited by men as being more enjoyable because it's more degrading to women. Just FYI.

So it isn't surprising people are thinking, "Wow. She degraded herself."

1:26 AM - Vassar in 1908? Stop being a jerk. Just because people are aware of this line doesn't make them prudes.

Honestly, if a girl is talking about having butt sex, then it makes me think that she doesn't have that much respect for herself, because of the derogatory social connotations associated with it... especially because it is often associated with violence and misogyny.

Anonymous said...

the amount of comments on a post like this don't surprise me at all for vassar.

*sigh*

what was i thinking coming here

Anonymous said...

Oh, you're right 3:13. Because everybody at other colleges would ignore this post, definitely. Vassar is the worst, huh?

Anonymous said...

In a mutually respectful relationship, anal sex can be as loving and thoroughly enjoyable for both parties as any other form of sexual expression. Of course anal sex involves a power dynamic - is there any conceivable sexual act that lacks one? What's important is that the partners are aware of this dynamic, and that the other partner is at least willing to try being on the receiving end of anal play. If your partner's open to having their own ass played with, there's no good reason not to at least give it a shot, unless of course you're still in the recuperative stages of a sexual assault.

Anonymous said...

She's trying too hard to break away from Mia Thermopolis.

Anonymous said...

2:03, we should be breaking these incredibly sexist connotations rather than letting it rule the way we act. Honestly, I'm surprised some of you are Vassar students. Didn't Vassar teach you to question societal norms AT ALL? If it's often associated with violence and misogyny (which I'd have to disagree with anyway) then hooray for a woman taking power with the act and showing people that other women shouldn't be held down by societal expectations (like yours) but rather do whatever the fuck they want.

3:13, get off your high horse. Honestly, I don't know if it's one person who keeps making these comments or just a lot of stupid pretentious idiots who frequent Mads suddenly expecting it to become the New York Times. I actually am very happy at the way this topic turned out. Sorry that you don't care about the rampant, and sometimes dangerously subconscious, misogyny shared by the majority of society. I mean you can see how brainwashed people are by the media just looking at a few of these comments. IT IS NEVER OK TO ALLOW SOCIETAL NORMS TO RULE THE WAY YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE!

Anonymous said...

who knew fudge packing was such an interesting topic of conversation!
only at Vassar...

anewnadir said...

Wow, every single time I visit a comments thread on this blog I can't help but think about the decline of western civilization. Anyone here who thinks they are engaging in meaningful dialogue by talking about the various considerations surrounding anal sex should be exiled so they can get to know that ever-elusive REAL WORLD (which, ironically, will teach them more about anal sex than any discussion this worthless blog can provide).

Anonymous said...

why not just have babies.

Anonymous said...

anewnadir-
I read your blog. Your pretentious and utterly meaningless opinions made me want to chew my own face off, but once I managed to resist that urge (aided by a Nilda's cookie carved into an effigy of Bertrand Russell), I calmed down enough to consider your post.

I was tempted here to go into a point-by-point explanation of why your post was ridiculous and self-serving without containing any actual content, but decided not to. You're just a stupid tool, and I'm glad you won't be here next year.

Anonymous said...

yeah I got sucked to the tabloid title, I wish I never clicked it.

Anonymous said...

how can you people say only WOMEN shouldn't talk about certain sexual practices, but imply that it is perfectly okay for men to?

and how can you say this is not a "meaningful dialogue" when so many members of this campus are not only being personally limited by restrictive societal norms - which is sad but their own problem - but are trying to shove their normative views down other people's throats?

if you don't want to participate in or discuss a certain sexual practice that is your prerogative. but to impose those views on other people in general, or worse, on women in particular, is completely unacceptable.

and for the love of god i WISH people would stop thinking of anal sex as degrading. this perception is a huge cause of male homophobia, and the idea that being penetrated at all is degrading only helps perpetuate misogyny.

Anonymous said...

Well you do have to be submissive, and trust the other person with control. It doesn't come across as very empowering image. Maybe it has more to do with an ability to entice one into the act to feel powerful?????

Anonymous said...

this is totes ridic and hilar. 5 stars to all commenters. *****

Anonymous said...

3:46-
It's incredibly sexist of you to assume that women have to be "enticed" into anal sex as a rule. When people stop assuming that men must initiate any potentially uncomfortable heterosexual sex act, and when they wake the fuck up to the fact that sexual dynamics in bed do NOT have to reflect sexual dynamics in other areas of life, it will be a big step toward a day when all sex is based around mutual consent, eagerness to please (from all parties) and willingness to try new things, including anal sex. Otherwise, as you'd have it, we can just continue to label women with non-puritan sexual desires as deluded and abused.

Anonymous said...

undoubtedly, this thread will be retired from Mads' front page in the next day or so and this conversation will die fast and hard.

so, i'm gonna urge people to keep talking about this on campus and in the real world. and if anonymity helps, keep coming back here. because we all have a lot of work to do.

---
this whole debate reminds me of the fiasco that was the closet on the quad (http://www.madsvassarblog.com/search?q=closet).

we're just sitting here bouncing back and forth between people limited by "restrictive societal norms" and people who are pissed that these "normative views" are being shoved down their throats.

maybe this anonymous bullshit can turn into the "meaningful dialogue" we all seem to want if we're willing to acknowledge that we all bring unique personal/social/emotional histories to this blog.

perhaps to some, anal sex is degrading. perhaps to some, being penetrated is degrading. shoving “progressive” views on other people is just as unacceptable as shoving normative views down people’s throats.

we have to reach an understanding that there isn’t some blanket idea/solution/philosophy that’s gonna put everyone at ease.

or at least, we need to become a little more open if we want to have a “meaningful dialogue” as a community about these issues (and all issues, really).

Anonymous said...

anal sex is great, especially when its not degrading

Anonymous said...

it's astonishing how you don't respect other people's opinions. if some people don't feel it's okay to talk about anal sex, respect their opinion and move on, don't be the typical vassar student and assume you're opinion is better than everyone else's.

Anonymous said...

i think vassar has the worst community on a college campus i've ever seen. I've been to other college sites and none of them have students tearing each other down to such an extent as this one.

Anonymous said...

To be fair, 7:38, aren't you doing the exact same thing with that holier-than-thou attitude? If you don't like the conversation, you needn't participate in it. Just sayin'....

Anonymous said...

yes, but most other college sites don't have links to discussions on anal sex...
i find the upfront-ness quite refreshing, actually.

Anonymous said...

7:34--There's a big difference between saying it's not okay to talk about anal sex and saying it's not okay for a woman to talk about anal sex (which is what most of the people were saying on this thread). I'm fine with people being uncomfortable with certain topics of conversation, but there shouldn't be a gender division when it comes to appropriate conversation topics (or anything else, for that matter, but that's another discussion altogether...)

And 7:38, I have friends at other colleges who express the same concerns about the attitudes students at their schools express in anonymous comments. It's not Vassar specific.

Anonymous said...

HEAR HEAR 11:53!

Anonymous said...

Props to the last two comments. Also, try to remember that people who write mean comments on Mads are probably a lot nicer in person. And yeah, holding men and women to different standards is sexist. Sorry if you don't like being confronted with your own bigotry, but sometimes it's necessary. Don't take it so personally.

Anonymous said...

"We’re not sure if the quote, 1. is even real or 2. is real but will be inevitably pulled from the upcoming article...". Apparently they don't even trust their own sources.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with 2:03. There are some women who don't want to do the same things as men want. In the act itself, Women do not have a choice in the position of the act (as oppose to consenting men), and may want to do it to please someone as an expression but not necessarily enjoy it for it's own sake, some just enjoy it. It is more important that women be able to express what they really want and that the partner take them seriously about out they feel about it. There are many women who feel degraded in the act, and their feelings should be respected. Keep in mind I have worked in a domestic violence shelter.

Anonymous said...

9:29-
Read the above. Consent is paramount in the minds of all the anal sex advocates here. However, it's incredibly sexist to assume that anal sex is degrading to women. It is only degrading if it is non-consensual.

Anonymous said...

It's not true, guys. Mads, can you be sure to make an actual post saying so?

http://defamer.com/5057439/how-the-anne-hathaway-loves-anal-sex-rumor-fooled-the-internet

Anonymous said...

http://defamer.com/5057439/how-the-anne-hathaway-loves-anal-sex-rumor-fooled-the-internet

Anonymous said...

8:55 , 1:45, 1:55...thanks for at least checking sources

Anonymous said...

haha 1:45 and 1:55, as soon as you saw that on defamer you just had to leap back to mads to set the story straight.