You should make a post urging all students to pledge their support (or non-support) for the Kick Coke campaign. It's critical that the class/house presidents get input from their constituents.PS - Kick that shit.
i love diet coke :(
Me too. Plus, this campaign would just hurt local bottlers... the Coca Cola corporation won't notice or care one bit.
the thing about kick coke... everyone supports in in public, but in private conversations say that they disagree with it completely.could the vsa maybe to a real, old-fashioned student body vote on this? just a simple up/down survey question: should we kick coke, yes or no? we've all gotten that long document explaining the reasoning five times, so we have all had the opportunity to inform ourselves, if we so choose.the resolution that the misc article says vsa is considering seems a little strange. because if they pass some resolution kicking coke that doesn't actually reflect the student body's desire, then we really shouldn't hold this up as an example of our social justice. unless this actually reflects the opinion of a majority of students, that kind of resolution strikes me as an empty gesture. beyond that, it strikes me as a horrible model for representative government.i personally support kick coke. but i would never try to inflict my personal decision not to buy coca cola on other students. some e-mail the group sent a year ago with five hundred questions (one of which about coke) where only 400 kids responded... that's not proof of much of anything.
So Vassar supporting local bottlers would hurt local bottlers? Wow, you're awesome.
10:29, i totally agree with you. i think there's a huge lack of representation on this campus, and i think a lot of things should be put to a vote. not a survey, not up to the vsa exec board.
10:29,i was talking to someone on the misc, and she told me that if the vsa council hears from enough students who don't support kick coke, that they'll endorse kick coke only as the council, not as the entire vsa, therefore not representing the students.
the distinction between the vsa supporting something and the vsa council supporting something is really problematic in my mind. im glad the misc has been writing about this, because otherwise i honestly don't believe students would even know that this decision is being made by their representatives (or if not decision, then endorsement of a decision from cappy).something like this could EASILY be put to a clear up/down vote. we do elections on the vsa website, right? why not just ask the question. this issue is really not so complex that it can't be put to a vote (unlike, say, the crafting of a meal plan, which is too complex for 2,000 people to be directly involved in, thus requiring representatives). but this decision, which is obviously so controversial, could very easily be put up for a vote.vsa coucil, remember that you are representatives. i think it is really troubling that you would consider passing a resolution like this without a statistical mandate from the student body (not counting kick coke's ridiculous e-mail survey). if you're going to do this, don't rush it and do it right.
there really should be a campus vote on this! that's a great idea! ... and we should KEEP coke!
yeah. we should totes keep it.
coke consumption factors into obesity. switch to the other coke and all's better ;)
Why stop at just "kicking Coke"? Let's kick every other name-brand item on campus. I'm sure those Nike shoes people wear have been made using slave labor. I'm sure Pepsi has even had incidents like Coke's, so let's kick Pepsi off campus too. While we're at it, do you all see the cars driving around campus? They emit horrible fumes and gases into the air that kill plants, animals, and destroy the environment. Let's kick them off campus as well!
No one is saying individuals can't choose to buy Coca-Cola. This campaign is like the campaigns, to remove cigarettes and sweatshop clothing from being sold on campus, from the past. Kick Coke wants to remove structural support for a corporation that is recorded as having caused harm to tens of thousands of folks, at least. A corporation that destroys local resources, has been strongly anti-union both here and abroad, and that has done business illegally in Sudan, not stop you from drinking whatever the fuck you want to drink.
What are these "local alternatives" I keep hearing about, and why aren't they here already? We can't have Coke and local sodas? Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. They're just going to make everything Pepsi. Pepsi sucks.
local soda sounds horrible. can't we just be normal? why does everything have to be made into a huge argument. people should email their vsa rep and tell them what a horrible idea kick coke is.
never mind. Just read the proposal and saw the "local" alternatives. They seem to be much more expensive than Coke though, and I don't know how I feel about drinking sparking green tea when I want some cola.
THANK YOU! sparkling green tea? are you kidding. keep it. no vote. keep it.
What people choose to drink, for whatever reason, should be their own personal decision. I personally do not drink any soda and haven't since I was younger. But I definitely disagree that Vassar College should have the ability to prevent someone from having the accessibility to drink Coke or Pepsi or whatever else they want.For those concerned about the alleged crimes, don't drink Coke; don't support it. More power to you. But if people want to drink Coke, hell, it's no worse than all the topics pointed out by 10:17. Don't push your protest onto someone else.
this campaign is absolutely stupid. why must they push their ethical decision not to support a company onto me or onto vassar as an institution?
ex-fucking-xactly. it is a personal decision. im liberal and care about some issues and not others. i do not march through vassar demanding that everyone care enough to agree with me and restricting access to things i do not agree with.by the way not everyone on this campus even agrees that even IF the charges against coke and other corporations were proven that we should ban those companies from campus.saying to support local beverage companies is ridiculous. support them if you want. some people do. but do not dare say "oh want soda? well here are these more expensive options you might not even want. want coke? walk blocks away and buy it, sorry we kicked coke! yay us!"
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